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Hopper Sketches by povorot Hopper Sketches by povorot
Some sketches of the hopper, both in color and b&w. Two versions of hoppers using a mortar and pestle.

I was thinking a lot about the types of 'clothing' the hoppers would wear - or even need. I ended up poking around, looking at the types of harnesses subsaharan africans put on their camels. I was thinking of having some of these guys as 'native porters' for a character, so I wanted to have the designs all ready.
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nemo-ramjet Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2009
Quadruple wow! The way you can make your aliens into completely believable noble savages never ceases to astound me. A question - do these and the trilaterlally symmetric "amphora" aliens belong in the same universe?

Are these things on a different planet, or a massively alternate Earth?
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povorot Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2009
These fellas are space aliens, along with the trilaterally symmetrical Amphorae (which kind of works, as a name...)

I'm trying to write a sci-fi story with a kind of western/frontier feel to it, and I keep flip-flopping between which alien species I want to play the role of aboriginals - the hoppers, or the squids/amphorans. I like the dynamics created by having sophonts considerably larger then humans, but the animalistic (to earth eyes) qualities of the hopper would also result in some very interesting tensions and culture shocks...
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labgnome Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2010
I must say I like the idea. You seem to be going with the "apes and angels" argument for alien intelligences. Any species we encounter are likely to either be so far behind us to seem like "cave-men" or chimpanzees compared with our own technology at the time or so advanced to seem godlike in comparison.

Witch, conversely are you also planning on including as well? Someone as far ahead of the humans as they are to the currently "primitive" species they are encountering?

When I first saw the hopper I had started thinking bout how cool it would look with the Dinosauroids, but having it with humans

You could have both, and have their relations be different for various reasons, from the "temperament" of the aliens themselves to just who and/or why the humans have come to their planet. One species could get along with the humans relatively well, and the other could be more "antagonistic". They could also have different things the want from the humans.

Example: the hoppers might want weapons and the amphora might want narcotics on the negative end, but conversely the hoppers might be uninterested in getting narcotics and the amphora uninterested in weapons. The Hoppers might be interested in getting things like education or medicine, in return for whatever it is the humans want, but the amphora are uninterested in those things and are more interested in technological "trinkets" like computers and cellphones or whatever the current equivalents are.

On the disliking humans end, the hoppers might be territorial and not want to share territory with humans and the amphora on the other hand might not care about territory but be more agitated by cultural slights like the perceived desecration of objects of veneration.

You don't need direct analogies to groups here on Earth, and can and should feel free to make up your own interactions between them and humans. You can even have a planet where things do in fact go swimmingly between the humans and aliens because the particular humans did in fact learn the lessons of our history and were able to successfully apply them to a new species.
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nemo-ramjet Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2009
Are the Hoppers and Amphorans on one planet, or two different ones?
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povorot Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2009
Two different ones, for sure.
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souhjiro Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2009
or both as species on different borders of a broad expansionist human sphere across space?
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povorot Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2009
That's kind of what I'm going for, I think.
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zombieslayerjjj Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2009
The hoppers are, right now, one of my favorite sophont races of all of my buddies that I watch. I love how they look alien, but still plausible. Some people go too terrestrial (I admittedly do, though only so that they are easier to cast as characters in stories and such), while others just try to make it as un-earth like as possible, thus making it ridiculous. Keep up the good work.
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povorot Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2009
Thanks, man. I've been enjoying designing them.
The key, it seems, is definitely to think in unearthly terms, but with a consistent biology underlying it. Thinking about evolutionary history, reasons driving the development of intelligence, etc, make for the most believable aliens.
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bensen-daniel Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2009
Something about the tentacle coiled around the top of the mortar doesn't look natural too me. What if the hopper held the mortar by a long handle between two tentacles, then slid the tentacles past each other, back and forth (like a person rubbing their hands together). Then you might get something like a firebow, which might be easier for them to hold on to and use.
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povorot Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2009
I kinda like that. Tentacles as manipulators have been surprisingly difficult to design cultural accouterments for.
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bensen-daniel Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2009
it strikes me that the toys marine biologists make for octopus behavior studies might be a good place to start.
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frazamm Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2009
Typo!: You know I mean Jan's Atomic Heart.
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frazamm Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2009
Looking forward to the comic. If it is anything as good as Jan's Atomic Hear I know I'm in for a treat.
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povorot Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2009
Thanks, man. I just gotta get down and actually make it, now.
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Social-Animal Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
I cannot fucking wait for this comic. Your sophonts are superior
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povorot Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2009
Thanks!
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Giggarex Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
I like how detailed you made these. I feel as though I can reach out and touch the fuzz on its leg and get the feeling of a hairy spider like creature on my hand. The colors I like, the bright brown gives of viberance of life but keeps it realistic and almost more "down to earth" per say in feel of how sapient creatures normally are superior to humans in everyway.
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povorot Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2009
Thanks, man. It's all about subtlety - the touch of color, as opposed to the full spectrum.
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M0AI Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
The words that flashed into my head as I looked at this, in probable order: mantis shrimp, Native American, camel, Gomphothere. Brilliant work, once again. I'm quickly coming to looking forward to your deviations more than almost any other.

Given that these guys are quadrupeds, I bet many humans (particularly the more ignorant ones), tend to think of them as animals, rather than sentient beings.
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povorot Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
Thanks, man. Whenever I look at your work, I always just get this strange feeling... of wanting more ALIENS FROM THE RING!
Really, though, I often look at those designs especially. I was inspired to do a more restive, "shamanic" pose for my creature after poring over both the image and story for your Kahoon illustration. Multiple times.

You really need to put up a couple more illos from that project, when you have the enthusiasm or time for it. One thing that's be really cool would be a sort of market scene to act as a teaser for the viewers - showing a couple of creatures you've used before, but also throwing in one or two new ones and some strange silhouettes lurking in the fringes of the image...
I dunno. Just an idea.

Oh, and I was thinking of having hopper-human relations generally pretty stressful - colonists taking shots from their trucks at hoppers, hopper braves burning down homesteads over perceived slights, etc. Wild west shit.
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M0AI Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you, man, for the incredibly encouraging words. I'm glad the admiration for each other's aliens and worlds is mutual.
If you're waiting for another Ring alien, just wait until later today, or tomorrow at the latest.:) More complete, multi-entity scenes with environments and such are on the agenda, definitely.:)

Human-hopper relations sound generally unpleasant for both species, but a good basis for a dramatic story.
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Psamophis Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Professional General Artist
Really nice concept
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povorot Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
Thanks, man.
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whalewithlegs Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Student General Artist
Oh boy, more prawn! I love these guys so much ... you've hit a goldmine with them, certainly. Neat to see a couple of stages of the sketch development! For some reason it hasn't really hit me until now how much of a combined spider & shrimp vibe these guys give off.
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povorot Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009
Well, the root idea is kind of that they're long, long down the road descendants of some kind of alien anomalocaris lookalike. So weird fucked-up arthropod is exactly what I'm going for!
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Rayn-Hammer Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I really, really, really like these! When do you think the comic will be ready?
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povorot Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2009
Shee-it - probably not for a couple of years. I'm starting on a different project right now, completely unrelated, so I have to work through that one first.
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Rayn-Hammer Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
damn, I'm looking forward to it, that and I bought a copy of Jan's Atomic Heart which I can't wait to get!
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